A couple of various-sized rear backstraps, an extra magazine, a couple of magazine base plates, and a soft zippered pistol case are all in the box. The Hex Dragonfly came pre-mounted and zeroed, which surprisingly was almost dead on out of the box. The beavertail profile is a nice addition, too. I'm wondering if those 16 rounders will fit my older XDM? M&Ps are probably next on the list. When squeezing the trigger, it becomes increasingly easier to fire off follow up shots. I bought a Springfield XDm in .45 from LGS about 9 weeks ago. If you have found any PD rounds which feed and chamber reliably in your Beretta, I would be glad to learn of them. Theyre small and my fingers are short, so its quite a challenge to find a comfortable fit. The beavertail profile is a nice addition, too. This is the one we have been waiting our entire lives for. About 30 more rounds in to my range day the pistols trigger locked up. Maybe that is because I shoot Ruger single action revolvers, various double action revolvers, the Glock, my 1911, various .22 target pistols, and I need to adjust to each one more or less to get the best performance and enjoyment out of them. In case the stock ergos dont work for you, the XD(m) ships with three replaceable backstraps so that you can fit the gun to your paw. The polymer parts help to keep the weight down, but are still durable. As unfortunate as it is, you'll probably be fine when Springfield gets you the replacement. Fast forward to just a few months ago, May to be exact, Springfield released the 4.5 version. SA accomplished this with the Lightning Cut, a three-inch cut-out on the top of the slide which allows for a faster cycle by reducing reciprocating mass. Smith & Wesson also made sure to include optic height iron sights and various mounting plates, so youre good to go once you choose your optic. It's had a lot of problems with soft strikes and some other odd issues. 28,272. EGW being one of the best. If this model was having issues I'm sure someone here would chime in. Same size, but a little thinner on the grip, more like a 1911. and they are cheaper than Glocks! No work was done to the pistol, outside of a recoil spring change and oil at 2,000 round intervals. Either is a great choice in 10mm. Those of us*who've had a brand new Glock blow up in their hand due to unsupported chamber don't think much of them. If you opt for the model that comes with the Hex Dragonfly optic, it will also be nestled inside of the pistol case. I considered the Sig saur , Glock 17 , Smith and Wesson m and p etc etc. Maybe youre clearing a building and need a free hand to open a door, or maybe youre reloading and dont want to lose sight of your target. BTW, I too own an XD, the XD-.45 Tac. Bottom of the Dot on front post on target (post covers whole target @ 100 yd.) After purchasing the pistol it didnt take long to realize that I had made the best choice. Im not much of a pistol guy, but I can consistently hit head shots at 30 yards (90) with my 4.5 XDM .40. The first cylinder full was hard to eject. I was obviously very surprised but kept on shooting. In addition to looking at optics, I always suggest weapon-mounted lights. As far as I can tell, there are no problems with failure to feed, failure to eject, or misfire. Do not just parrot what you read on the web sites. I've been hoping for years to see an M&P 10mm hit the market, so I will definitely be grabbing one of those. The controls are very easy to get to, and the ambi mag release is a definite plus. Is It? Then a couple weeks ago this video came out. in the 5.25. This isnt to say that the XD (M) cant handle a wide variety of ammo, though, because it performs with equally well with range ammo like Tula 115 gr, Remington UMC. "As flies to wanton boys are we to the gods; They kill us for their sport.". Either is a great choice in 10mm. Accuracy * * * After the first 2 magazines I noticed this little wire protruding from the loaded chamber indicator. Love both guns, but being able to switch the trigger to single action I couldnt say no. The XD(M) is already a low-recoil handgun, and with its fast cycle-through you barely even notice a hitch, especially with reduced-power loads. I know many departments and agencies are approving the XD platform for personal carry- Springfield hasnt done the aggressive pricing cuts like Glock and SW have done so its only rarely the official issued duty weapon. Still, the loaded 659 and spare mag(s) really are rather a load, so I favor the Walther and Browning for carry and use the S&W in a belt holster to accompany a Keltec Sub2K with which it shares magazines. I also own a Beretta Cheetah that holds 13+1, fits my hand extremely well and conceals in an IWB Bianchi holster perfectly for me. From the outset, Id called this a big heavy gun, but I like to back my assertions with some cold hard science. It seems to have caught a case of NYPDitis as it tripped my scale at a very consistent seven and a half pounds. 14 of 16 shots were 7s or 8s two misses. I was goofing off one day And hit 7s and 8s on full size silluette targets at 100 yards. I havent shot this gun in wet conditions to see how the grip fares, but I wouldnt think any huge issues would arise. NO ISSUES. With fifteen rounds in the magazine, one in the chamber, and fifteen more on each reload, the XD-M in 10mm is going to be handy when trouble arrives. I found myself unable to detach from the Springfield armory xdm 9 4.5 . I have an XDM 10mm OSP. I hate to split a category up (Nick hates it more), but the truth is that this is a very mechanically accurate pistol. Ive done it with sloppy thumb work on a 4006. Im sure youre not the only one who has inadvertently lock a slide back by hitting the slide release. Whether you are looking for a home defense weapon or need a new competition piece, definitely try out the XD(M). Ultimately, as much as I love them (and M&P), Im now INTIMATE with my CZ P09 (and P07 Gen2). I have always only acquired handguns with a substantial enough grip to fill my hand without any dangling fingers or palm. Throw it in a ransom rest or another similar jig, and this gun is going to spit bullets hot, cold, dry, or wet. All these amazing features make it one perfect casual outerwear to get compliments from your fashion friends. But make no mistake, it is svelte in all the right ways too. MSRP $609 - $837. Due to the way I had the rifle slung, my pistol and my rifle spent all of Sunday fighting with each other. Gun Made participates in the Amazon Services LLC All of the controls work as they are supposed to. Ive experienced zero malfunctions, and the ammo consisted of Blazer Brass 180-grain FMJ and Hornady 180-grain JHP. FEATURES. The 3.5-MOA red dot Dragonfly is the larger of Springfields two red dot optics and is perfectly proportioned for full-size handguns. Havent compared yet. It shoots great. JavaScript is disabled. Get your hands on one if you havent. This is not at all uncommon in 1911s. Great info in this thread! I'd handled one in an LGS next to the Glock 20, RIA 1911, and EAA Witness. Never been happier with a gun !! The MSRP for the base model XD-M Elite 10mm retails at $653 while the Hex Dragonfly Red Dot equipped version (the precise model being reviewed here today) punches in at $837. The mag release, slide lock, and takedown lever are all easy to operate. The XDm in 10mm weighs in at 31.2 oz unloaded and has a 4.5-inch Bbl. The gun is definitively minute of bad guy accurate, and as you can see in the video above, head shots at ten yards at a decent little clip are well within the realm of a mediocre operator. Here's a brief unboxing: To prove the quality and reliability of the new XD-M 10mm, 10,000 rounds of Federal Premium Hydra-Shok ammunition was fired through the gun with EVERY round documented on video. Depending on preference, might be a bit too much for a carry piece. With fifteen rounds in the magazine, one in the chamber, and fifteen more on each reload, the XD-M in 10mm is going to be handy when trouble arrives. Id carried the 40 for a while until I got an xds. In fact, it beats the feel of the Glock grip hands down. Its frame is black polymer with three interchangeable backstraps. I use to have a few before the boating accident. Even as an admitted M&P addict, I cant imagine shooting any of them without an Apex trigger kit installed. Springfield customer service. Here's a brief unboxing: Came in cardboard, not the nice "pelican" as its found typically; think that's an IOP thing. I got my XDm about 5 years ago. They take Sig sights, and as I mentioned in a previous post, are notoriously difficult to remove (you will see the same in SA forums). This isnt to say that the XD (M) cant handle a wide variety of ammo, though, because it performs with equally well with range ammo like Tula 115 gr, Remington UMC. After the first 2 magazines I noticed this little wire protruding from the loaded chamber indicator. Southpaws shall rejoice that the XD(m) features a magazine release thats ambidextrous with no need to fix anything out of the box. Contrasting your M&P w/RDS, IF you have an M&P9 Pro C.O.R.E, just aint fair, as for the ton of additional money, especially after you put a quality mini-dot on the M&P, youd expect it to be a good deal better. Ultimately, the rifle was worse for the wear. A 4.5 10mm just makes sense. Glocks are supposed to be reliable but I apparently bought a lemon. #7. Give Springfield another chance here's a quick way you can contact them. I like your style, Roscoe. One final note on ergonomics before I move on. This is only my 2nd poly framed pistol with the lock up the way that Springfield does it. No work was done to the pistol, outside of a recoil spring change and oil at 2,000 round intervals. Ive been a Glock guy historically in 9 and 10 mm but wanted to try the XD platform for 45 and Ive not been disappointed so far. I talked to a helpful yet grating and some what condescending customer service lady who told me it might be the S and B ammo I was using. When using the rear sights, it feels really good when you reset for another shot. The 3.5-MOA red dot Dragonfly is the larger of Springfields two red dot optics and is perfectly proportioned for full-size handguns. The XD(M) series runs at about $775 MSRP. Good enough for me; I doubt I'll be feeding it a steady diet of 200s at 1200FPS. This resulted in some pretty nasty gouges in the X-Ray chassis and some minor scratches in the polymer frame and a scratch or two in the slide. After a long awaited range session with my new xdm 10mm, the pistol failed in less than 60 rounds. Springfield Armory XD-M Elite 4.5 OSP 10mm: Hands-On Review [2023]. Each XD(M) barrel is hand-fitted to each individual pistol, so the parts fit flawlessly and work smoothly to produce fast, accurate shots each time you fire. Color: Black. In fact, it beats the feel of the Glock grip hands down. Compact yet powerful, the pistol packs in 11+1 rounds of the powerful 10mm and features fully ambidextrous controls, the excellent META trigger and much more. Using my trusty food scale, I pegged the unloaded weight of the 4.5 at 25.15 oz or a touch over a pound and a half. I love this gun and the xd. Man, if you like G17, you will love the P09. Tyler Kee is a small town kid trying to make it in the big city of Austin, Texas. Even shooting the admittedly snappy .40S&W, fast, accurate follow up shots were a breeze. WebXDM Elite 10mm 3.8" FAILURE! This is not a mechanical failure so much as an ergonomic one in my mind. I pulled it out and I realized it was the spring that keeps tension on the indicator. If youre an M&P fan, this one needs to be on your list. Springfield paid close attention to the details of this gun and loaded it up with features. And never admit you were shooting reloads. I was considering it, but now I may wait on it for a couple more months), Update: He just posted a video after getting it back from Springfield. I gave up after five hundred rounds of Winchester white box and an entire grab bag of mixed brass case, steel case, JHP, and various other unknown ammo types. Im pretty much staying with Glocks, Smith, and Sig pistols simply for magazine compatibility reasons. I have an XDM 10mm OSP. The slide is forged carbon steel with a Melonite finish, which is tough stuff. I didnt see anything wrong with the pistol and reassembled. The XDM 10mm is out today, in both 4.5 and 5.25-inch slide configurations. #1. Started by Kenk. As far as accuracy is concerned, the large frame and 4.5 barrel definitely help with recoil management, which translates over to the accuracy. 9 MM 10 MM .45 ACP. Advantage Arms .22 Conversion Kit for Springfield XDM 9/ 40. I called Springfield yesterday to check on the status of my pistol. I didn't have much luck with my G20.4 Personally, I want to drive my handguns when I shoot, not hang on for the ride. The larger carry is a Browning BDA, also 917, which bears a PB logo on the right side of the slide just below and forward of the ejection port, and is a Model 84BB with a closed slide and a slide mounted decocker produced for Browning about 1980-2000. The XD(M) features a safety blade trigger with a clean break and a noticeable reset. But put it in my hands with a high support grip, and the slide lock engages almost immediately. No work was done to the pistol, outside of a recoil spring change and oil at 2,000 round intervals. Color: Black. The Springfield Armory XD(M) Competition Series of handguns has been getting a lot of attention lately, and for good reason. Full disclosure, I'm a steel gun guy. They are hammer fired, awesome trigger, safe as heck with the DA first pull, fit in your hand like a glove and accurate and controllable as any pistol out there if not more. I bought a new 29 10 5/8". When squeezing the trigger, it becomes increasingly easier to fire off follow up shots. Springfield Armory XD-M 10mm Discontinued Jump to Latest Follow Products in this Thread Discover products that SIG Talk members are discussing products that are mentioned will automatically appear here. I typically do sights myself, but the XDM front sight is an extreme poa, due to the slide contour. Gun Made may receive a small commission from any sales that link Loaded with features from top to bottom, the XD-S Mod.2 is a slim single stack pistol perfect for concealed carry. The new XD-M Elite 4.5 OSP 10mm combines all the refinements of the Elite series with the impressive power of the 10mm cartridge. I'm not going to dive into the pistol as I want Springfield to do the digging. Speaking of things that shot my confidence all to hell while using this gun, a brief note on the slide lock. It is much more civilized than the Rock in as much as the recoil is not as sharp and it doesn't launch brass into low earth orbit. Springfield Armorys customer service representatives can answer your questions/concerns Monday through Friday 8:30 to 4:30 CST via phone at 1-800-680-6866, International: +1-309-944-5631 or email at sales@springfield-armory.com. Own several of their kits (in varying levels of parts replaced) and installation on the XDMs is about as straightforward as it gets. It was my plainclothes duty weapon back in the day and with full pressure loads like those from doubletapammo is completely reliable. This gun is roughly the same weight wise that I am used to. He works with some of the largest manufacturers in the firearms industry, allowing him the opportunity to continuously learn from and knowledge share with the 2A community. If Id experienced this problem with any other pistol, there wouldnt be another category, but this is the only gun Ive ever had this problem with. Given that, the mediocre trigger knocks a star off of what would be an otherwise perfect review. Ordered a Springfield Armory XDm 10mm 4.5" through the IOP and just picked it up out of jail, where it was thoroughly cooled off. help sites earn revenue by advertising and sending traffic to #7. You stare at your friends salivating over the GLOCK 43 and ask why theyd want to carry a third(ish) the ammo you do. For lack of a better term, the XD(m) is just a big gun. Started by Kenk. WebBroken XDM Elite 10mm 3.8" UPDATE: They said it's good to go. To prove the quality and reliability of the new XD-M 10mm, 10,000 rounds of Federal Premium Hydra-Shok ammunition was fired through the gun with EVERY round documented on video. I really like mine, though I go back and forth on the 5.25" length vs the shorter one that you have. The trigger still broke at seven and a half pounds after much stacking. I agree that the XDM doesnt do much that the basic XD wouldnt, except look a bit cooler and cost more. It will never shoot as accurate as my Sig P-220 but not many pistols will. A fellow let me fire his XD(M) .45 at the range one day. Length: 7.6. Which made me think that it needed to break in a bit. All I've seen on the XD side of things is Powder River and Springer Precision. Ive found XDs to be about $100 cheaper than XDMs, but once youve shot an XDM, its hard to justify saving the money knowing that something better is out there. In the real world, that extra pound and a half might as well be a million. It sounds like you were unfortunate enough to get a lemon. Enter I absolutely realize ammo is responsible along with the guy behind the trigger but my pistol didn't really seem to have a definitive pattern- meaning it wasn't just 4 moa or 1moa, the groups were extremely erratic(yes, I know how to shoot). Gotta be there brass, I have a 29. Still not stellar, but slightly better than what I did unsupported. A larger, heavier gun makes recoil more manageable, and lets face it: with so many different caliber options for concealed carry in urban environments, the 10mm better fits open carry for wilderness situations. "The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog." No matter the situation, this gun will not let you down. The nits I have around accuracy are really pretty small. Springfield Armory XD-M 10mm Discontinued Jump to Latest Follow Products in this Thread Discover products that SIG Talk members are discussing products that are mentioned will automatically appear here. Now that Ive had a few months and several range trips with the XD-M Elite, Ill go over my personal experience with it and the many impressive features it has. I'll never buy another Springfield. To prove the quality and reliability of the new XD-M 10mm, 10,000 rounds of Federal Premium Hydra-Shok ammunition was fired through the gun with EVERY round documented on video. WebThe new XD-M Elite 3.8 Compact OSP 10mm combines potent power with cutting-edge performance and provides concealed carry users with an outstanding defensive pistol option. Give Springfield another chance here's a quick way you can contact them. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Its my favorite polymer 9 for the very reason of size, location and ease to depress and release. I bought new a Springfield XDM 10mm. Once you go CZ, you wont go back. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Add a magazine and 20 rounds of 115 gr ammo and the number jumps to 36.60 oz. Compact yet powerful, the pistol packs in 11+1 rounds of the powerful 10mm and features fully ambidextrous controls, the excellent META trigger and much more. Due to the way I had the rifle slung, my pistol and my rifle spent all Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Mine came with the small backstrap, and it fits my hand nicely. The only issue I've read or heard about with the 10mm XDMs is the occasional 'ejection' of the factory fiber-optic front sight. Thanks for the review, I have not had a bad experience shooting my regular 5.25" XDM 10mm. Grip comfort is a big deal for me since I have huge hands. 638002130469186470, Springfield Armory XD-M Elite 4.5 OSP 10mm, Fiber Optic Front Sight, Tactical U-Dot Rear Sight, Hex Dragonfly Red Dot. To prove the quality and reliability of the new XD-M 10mm, 10,000 rounds of Federal Premium Hydra-Shok ammunition was fired through the gun with EVERY round documented on video. Ease to depress and release for a carry piece on out of the Elite series the... Controls work as they are supposed to say no weight down, but the XDM sight. Fire his XD ( M ) is just a few months ago, May to be,. Found myself unable to detach from the loaded chamber indicator range day the pistols trigger locked up wrong the... 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